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Jim Mora Jr. & NFL Rookie Of The Year Prop Bets (Ep. 826)

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The guys welcome on college & NFL coach Jim Mora Jr. (@Jim_MoraFB) and talk a ton of football including his years coaching Michael Vick, his coaching rituals including smelling salts & UCLA’s comeback against Texas A&M. Plus the crew gives out their best bets for the NFL offensive and defensive rookie of the years.

UCLA’s Comeback Against Texas A&M

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Speaker 0 (1m 36s): Woo. Welcome everyone to the Sports. Gambling Podcast some Sean stacking them on a grid. It was my partner in pigs, right? Real money. Kramer. What’s happening? A crime dog. Hey Sean, how’s it hanging? A Tang and great and a, you know, third guy on the booth. Always hanging with this Colby, Dan and the database. Feels like he’s here a lot lately. I mean, why? Why is this corn? We’re supposed to be a quarantine, right? We are. We’re quarantined here in the S.G.P. Studio cranking out tons of content.

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Speaker 2 (3m 0s): Company. We got the flow on the desk handling all the claims and a yeah. What’s good. We got you a more junior on a legendary coach for fun interview. Hit on a bunch of stuff. Talk a little Michael Vick uh, and a couple of other surprises. Talk some college football. Great. A analyst for ESPN consumption. Hold on. This podcast to just, just get this, this Virginia tech vein pumping. He did beat Virginia tech in the ball game.

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Give out some pics for NFL rookie of the year, both authentic end defensive and we get those odds broke from the odds gods themselves. MyBookie dot A JE use the promo code S.G.P. To play win and most importantly paid. Joining us on the line. Legendary football coach and ESPN analyst. Jim Mora Jr Jim, how’s it going?

Speaker 3 (5m 33s): It is going very well. How are you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (5m 35s): Doing great. the isolation, you know.

Speaker 3 (5m 41s): Well it sounds like it’s almost over.

Speaker 2 (5m 43s): Yeah, that’s great news on it. And it does look like a Sports are coming back and hopefully in a big way of coming up this fall, I know where, where we’re chomping at the bit to watch sports and get back into it. Get back into football. Are you using this time? Are you catching up on any game film? What have

Speaker 4 (5m 58s): You been watching lately?

Speaker 3 (6m 1s): Well you know what, I probably like everybody else is searching for you know, entertainment, watched a lot of uh, you know the ESPN classics. Uh, they’ve done a really nice job I think providing content for people and kind of go back in history. Loved watching the last dance with my four kids and introducing them to Michael Jordan, which further few of the debate of you know, the greatest of all time because they’d never watched him. A my 17, 17 year and he goes, you know what Dan, I think he’s the best ever.

Speaker 4 (6m 32s): Okay.

Speaker 3 (6m 32s): Its kind of fun and then uh, you know to stay in touch with friends that are in the business and, and seeing what they’re doing. It was fun to kind of track the draft from a different perspective. This year, you know, I’ve been at the draft for the last several years as a coach or as an analyst and A to sit at home and kind of go into the living room is of all these players as well as the decision makers at the NFL teams was I thought a lot of fun. So I’ve been busy.

Speaker 4 (6m 57s): Now coach, we just had a June Jones’ on and he was very reluctant, thinks the NFL will happen, but he was reluctant to think that a high school in college are going to happen this fall. How do you, how do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (7m 10s): Well, I think the NFL will go forward. Uh, I think they will definitely play games. I’m not sure what, uh, they will do with regard to fans in the stands. Um, I’m sure there will be some fans in the stands to begin with and more as we go along, as long as we’re turning downward with regards to this pandemic. Um, but they, they can do that, you know? Um, these are a professional players. They’re men, they’re adults. It’s a business. College is a little bit different, you know, there are rules in place and you know, we know that students need to be on campus before athletes could be on campus practicing or, or participating in games.

That is, so I, um, probably a little bit more reluctant to say that college will go on, but I believe in my heart that they will find a way, uh, to make a season happen. It may not be the season that we are used to seeing traditionally with regards to the number of games and the bowls and things like that. But, uh, I do believe that there will be a college football season and then I think high school is probably going to see the biggest change. You know, I have heard, at least in my area and in California that there’s talk that they’ll push the football season to the spring, which I think is, is difficult.

Uh, I think it, it hampers some people. I think that there’ll be some kids that are early admits to college, will flat out miss their senior season. Uh, I think it will hamper recruiting to a certain extent. But I think the most important thing is that we follow the guidelines put in place by the experts. And that along with doing that, that we hopefully can provide these youngsters a chance to participate and their parents a chance to watch them and fans’ a chance to cheer. Again. I think we need Sports

Speaker 4 (8m 50s): Couldn’t agree more. And uh, as far as yourself getting back into it, your last A tenure,

Speaker 0 (8m 56s): There was UCLA currently college a year record, 46 and 30 in college. Do you have any plans to try and get back in the mix, coach in college or maybe back in the pros? Where are you at kind of with that?

Speaker 3 (9m 9s): Well, I’ll tell you this, I’ve enjoyed A the last couple of years at ESPN and they provided me a tremendous opportunity to, you know, stay close to the game, talk about the game, study the game, had a lot of time to watch film. I, you know, I sit there every Saturday and watch, you know, games from noon till midnight on the East coast as a nurse, you know, 1212 monitors in front of me. So a lot of it

Speaker 0 (9m 31s): What it sounds like our garage,

Speaker 3 (9m 33s): But it’s not a bad deal really. It’s, you know, this man cave in every 10 minutes to every day.

Speaker 0 (9m 39s): Yeah.

Speaker 3 (9m 40s): You guys can talk a little football. So its kind of a dream job. But I love the coach and I love to coach college and uh, you know, I’d relish the opportunity to go back and run a program. I think I’ve had success and you know, uh, at every level I’ve been out and you know, obviously that is what you learn from and I think I’ve learned a lot. I’m ready to go again. Uh, but it has to be the right opportunity and uh, I hope that that does come along. I sincerely do. And if it doesn’t then I’ll pour my heart, continue to pour my heart into the broadcast end of it.

Speaker 0 (10m 10s): Well a real quick Sean, I just, I heard you talk about the right opportunity coach and I want to take you on a time machine real quick. Was there an opportunity that you’ve already had in your career that you look back on and you say, wow, that was, that was the right mix of things and we were really close, but there was just that one thing missing.

Speaker 3 (10m 30s): Yeah, I had, I’ve had a couple, um, opportunities that I passed up, um, that in, in retrospect, um, I’ve said to myself many times, why didn’t I take that job? But then I, I give it more thought and, um, I can come up with the reasons I can take a job. You know, when I was at UCLA, I was offered, um, more than one college job and more than one NFL job is a head coach. Uh, but, you know, I had, I had an obligation, I felt to not only school and UCLA, but for the young men that I’d recruited in their families who I had pulled might be at UCLA.

And I didn’t feel like I could, you know, on one hand stand in front of a team and talk about being selfless and talk about sacrifice and commitment and playing for each other and uh, and then talk to them about it. The other life lessons that I tried to instill it with them, you know, as a coach and then walk in one day and say, guess what, uh, I have this opportunity to go to this school, they’re going to pay me more money. I think it’s a better opportunity for me.

Uh, a C a later cause I felt like I’d be letting them down in their families down. And then the next time, and man, you know, in a position of coach stood in front of him and said, okay, these are the we need to do is a team. These are a type of teammates, types of teammates. You need to beat each other. You don’t want to be self serving. You know, you’ve got a commitment that they go, yeah, yeah, we’ve heard this BS before. And it was that Mora and he just left us. So as I looked back there, there is some regret that I didn’t make some of these moves cause I think they could have, um, enhanced my career.

But I also think that I made the right decision to stay, you know, because I felt like I owed that to the players, to their families and to my family as well.

Speaker 4 (12m 24s): I, I completely agree. And I think too many times you saw that not to throw meld Tucker onto the bus, but, and, and somewhat of the way here, Mel Tucker is a guy who, you know, reiterated or the first, you know, when Michigan state was going to hire him from Colorado or they, they, they were trying to hire him. He said, no, I’m staying here in Boulder. And then on top of, you know, on Twitter, somehow he posted, uh, university of Colorado posted him on the phone calls telling the kids, Hey, you know, you sign here, I’m committed to you. And then sure enough, he leaves. And it was just a really ugly scene I thought for college football and for, for Colorado Subsys specifically in Michigan state, I guess.

But I agree that there is a middle ground there that you’d have to find, but that one really left a bad taste in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (13m 7s): Is there anything you think that can be done like either a regulation sort of guidelines, anything because really these, these coaches contracts appeared of just countability. There’s just nothing really actually holding them. Should maybe coaches be subject to the same kind of transfer portal that they make players go through? Is that a possible solution?

Speaker 3 (13m 28s): Huh? I don’t think that would work. I think that, you know, the buyouts that, that colleges are putting in contracts so that it makes it harder for a team to hire a coach. Although if a team of the school has enough money to go ahead and by a guy out, I think it’s really complicated because a, I don’t know that we should ever Hoover a man for pursuing his dreams, but I also feel like when you make a commitment to kids and their families, you need to honor it. It’s life lessons that you’re teaching him and that’s one of the things you can do as a college football coach.

I think everybody has different motivations for why they coach. You know, I think some of them, you know, I think for Mel, he had his reasons for wanting to go to Michigan state. And you know, I think people go, yeah, he was getting paid a lot more money. But I think there’s probably something deeper than that. I really do. I think there’s something deeper than that. Uh, you know, and, and I don’t begrudge him taking that job. For me personally, what was more important than anything was being somewhere where I felt valued and I felt like I was adding value and then staying there, you know, and you make enough money when you’re a college football coach and if you were given an opportunity and put in a position and supported so that you could succeed as a head coach, then you would have no reason necessarily, in my opinion, to lead.

Now the school’s not supporting you if you’re not being provided some of the resources that you need to win at the highest level or you know, people aren’t being truthful for you or there are other circumstances that arise. And I think, you know, I guess you have to have a little bit of selfishness, but it’s a really, its a tough call because these kids are held to such a high standard and uh, and then a coach who’s bales, you know, I don’t know what the answer is. I really don’t, other than if a coach leaves, the kids can all lead.

But that’s not always easy. You know, there’s only a certain percentage of the kids that are wanting go elsewhere. They all can’t just leave. It’s a hard deal. You know, it’s, it’s a really complicated situation.

Speaker 2 (15m 28s): Well, between the pros and the NFL, you’ve really coached a, a number of a dynamic players. I know me and my, a cohost here, Ryan, we’re both big fans of Michael Vick. What was it like watching Vick in person and just seeing that kind of athleticism?

Speaker 3 (15m 47s): Yeah, you’re right. I’ve been fortunate. So I have in my, in my NFL career I’ve been affiliated as a coach, uh, work with a belief, either 28 or 30 members of the pro football hall of fame. So I’ve seen a lot of great ones. Um, I would say that Michael is in the top five athletes that I’ve ever coached or seen play a sport. I mean, he was that he was that dynamic and I’m not gonna say he was the very best, uh, cause I don’t think I could pick the very best. I think it would be unfair to it, to the others that, uh, that I coached or I’ve watched the pick the very best, but he was certainly in ice and the top five, and there wasn’t a day that went by whether it would be practiced or a game where you just wouldn’t go, Oh my God, did he just do that?

I can’t believe he just did that. You know, he had an incredible arm strength for the flip of the wrist. You could just feel through a beautiful ball. He had that explosiveness and speed. Um, he was toughest males. Uh, he was fun to be around. He enjoyed the game. Uh, you know, he went through some terrible times and he, you know, he made some horrible decisions, um, any, any paid for him. And I believe that he’s come out at a much, much, much better person, much better man than you know, of any wind into this whole thing with.

And so I applaud him for that. And I know there’s people out there that still, you know, uh, have issues with him because of what he did, but they paid his debt to society. He repented East, continually tried to make up for the mistakes, acknowledge them. And uh, he’s a good man. Mike Riggs. He’s a good man. I know this. My kids always loved being around Mike Vick and this is when they were young. And I always used to say that I would let my babysit my kids back in those days. And uh, you know, I haven’t changed in terms of that.

But boy was he fun to, he was so fun to watch, man. And I had to play against him too. He was not fun to play.

Speaker 2 (17m 38s): That’s not fun to scheme up against. Do you think his Supreme, do you think it’s Supreme athleticism in a way? Kind of what’s a detriment to him at least early in his career because was just so

Speaker 0 (17m 50s): Physically gifted that maybe he didn’t put in the time learning the plays, the mental aspect of being a quarterback in the national football league. He didn’t need to be as dedicated to that and maybe he sh he shortsighted himself there.

Speaker 3 (18m 4s): I think that there’s, there’s something to be said about that I think is not the only one that that’s happened to a play quarterback in the NFL is very, very unique. But the level of commitment is you have to have two years craft. 12 months out of a year is really unique. Um, you know, you have to understand what all other 21 player’s on the field or do and not just the other 10 on your side, but the 11 on the other side of the ball. You have to do a tremendous amount of, of off season work to get yourself mentally and physically prepared.

You have to watch hours and hours worth a film. You have to ask questions, you have to spend extra time in meetings. It’s a, you know, there are some positions where you can go to work that at the start of the day you can put the work in, you can go home and you know, turn on the TV and, and decompress and you’ll still be ready to put it on Sunday. Quarterback in the NFL is not that you have to be supremely dedicated to it. And when you’re a man like Mike who has the God given ability to make plays in the open field with his legs, you know, there may have been, and you know, let Mike speak from self on his breath.

So there may have been times when he said, you know what, I’m okay, I’ve got enough and if I get in trouble I can, I can just take off and go and they won’t be able to catch me. You know, and I think go ahead. As he went through his career and he learned how to study, he learn the importance of his values of studying A. Maybe his skillset declined a little bit in terms of here’s a physical ability that he did increase his, his, um, attempts to, to really understand the game.

You know, and I think it’s did a really nice job in Philadelphia of accelerating as a, as an intellectual player rather than just an intellectual athletic player.

Speaker 0 (19m 55s): And now looking, you know, 10 to 20 years in the past, he’s turned into almost like someone who’s going to be remembered as the person who brought the NFL forward. He’s the godfather for Lamar Jackson for these mobile quarterbacks who he essentially was the guy, Randall Cunningham before him. You can find data points along the history of the NFL lineage. But as far as the guy who will be remembered because this crop of current quarterbacks credits him as the guy who paved the way. So yeah, it was super fun to watch.

I was a Virginia tech grad A so coming out of college, getting the watch him play in the pros with you and the Falcons team was, was exciting because I remember in the moment there were a lot of people who were like, he can’t do. And at the NFL, he’s not fast enough to be that be like that at the NFL. He’s got to be able to throw. And as someone who watched him in person, whatever, say about

Speaker 2 (20m 48s): His athletic ability, I’ve never seen someone throw a football harder further than him. So he add on.

Speaker 3 (20m 57s): Yeah. And you had a quick rules. And you know what, here’s the misnomer is that, um, unfortunately in our society there’s some built in stereotypes and assumptions and sometimes the assumptions that a mobile quarterback can’t throw. Well, you know, I think that Mike was, was a guy that played quarterback and had the ability to run, not a running quarterback. I think that, you know, like we look at Lamar, he’s a running quarterback. I would, I would dispute that. I would say no, he’s a quarterback.

He can play the quarterback position, bike and run. And uh, to me there is a real distinction there. You know, Lamar Jackson and drop back and he can read a defense. He can understand where to throw it. You can throw her on time and with accuracy, but he can also make tremendous plays with his legs. Mike Vick dropped back and he could look around, he could digest the defense. And as you got better as you went through the, you know, his career, he got better at that and he could make the throws he made to make, but he could also get out of there.

Now there’s some quarterbacks that are strictly more mobile quarterbacks. There are guys that can, they can, they can run. And our average sellers, you know, Mike was a quarterback that can run my home, is a quarterback that can run, you know, uh, we already said Lamar, he can play quarterback, but he’s got the added element of running. So to me it’s just kind of twisting that whole, um, philosophy on his head or that whole, uh, you know, this notion that we have that a running quarterback isn’t a thrower.

Speaker 2 (22m 31s): Yeah. I mean, no, totally. And if you think Michael A Vick isn’t a throw or just cue up that Monday night football game against the Redskins of where he’s playing for the Eagles. I mean that ball, the Deshaun Jackson, that’s one of the greatest throws I’ve ever seen a quarterback make. Obviously I’m completely biased because I am an Eagles fan and uh, I, I’d be remiss if I did a talk a little bit about the 2004 NFC championship game. Do you think, sorry, sorry to bring up old wounds, but do you think as a, as a dome team inherently in the playoffs going outdoors, is there, is there a, is that a big disadvantage?

I know everyone likes to throw that in or even a handicap and games and go, Oh, dome team outdoors. Do you think there’s actually something to that?

Speaker 3 (23m 18s): If there is, there shouldn’t be at that level, at the NFL level where these are paid professionals and their, their men that have come from every environment that you can think of, the hot weather, cold weather, you know, I mean there should be enough mental toughness and discipline to be able to handle that environment. Whether you’re a dome team or you’re not a dome team. That’s what I believe. I don’t think you can ever use that excuse. And we never used that and that game, I mean it was frigid day and it was really cold.

Um, but that wasn’t why the Philadelphia Eagles won that game. They won that game because, you know, they played better than us. They coached better than us. Um, I felt going in at halftime that we were right there with him. I thought that, you know, if we could come out in the second half and put something together quickly that, you know, we could really make it close and we weren’t able to. I think we came out, we threw an interception, a score and it just kind of from there we were just really in catch up mode. Um, to be quite Frank with you, I have never gone in, watched the game film and, or a replay of that game.

Never in my life since. So it’s been, what, 16 years? I’ve never seen that game again. So everything I say is just kinda for a memory stands on the sidelines. I can’t, I still, I think I have PTSD from that game

Speaker 0 (24m 34s): Because I can’t turn it off.

Speaker 2 (24m 37s): You, you and LJ Crumpler a cause that hit, he took from Brian Dawkins. That is a, that’s almost from another era of football where they kind of let that go.

Speaker 0 (24m 45s): Aye.

Speaker 3 (24m 46s): The sauce and man, I loved him. I coached him in the pro bowl. What a man.

Speaker 0 (24m 52s): Just like a class act. And I’m sure coach would be excited to hear this too. But I used his Atlanta Falcons team to, to fuel my number two ranking on Xbox live in Madden. Matt. Yeah. So everything is coming full circle for me, man. Oh man. Crumpler was so dynamic.

Speaker 2 (25m 11s): There was a, uh, a viral video. I don’t know if you saw this, of A Adam Gase doing a sum smelling salts on the sideline of a game and I looked it up on the internet and a, I think there’s a clip of you on Monday night football, uh, doing a little bit smelling salt before a game or a, during a game. We did them in studio. I mean it’s, it’s quite a rush. Are you doing it just to kind of get pumped up? Is there, is there a mental thing? Is it just kind of like the players are doing it. You want to be one of the guys? Like what, what’s the mindset there?

Speaker 3 (25m 41s): It’s really funny. It started when I was with the San Francisco 49ers in the locker room. The guys with, you know, they do the smelling salts, they, they put a bunch of smelling salts in like the Gatorade bottle and then just spray it in someone’s nose. Yeah. And you guys would just walk up and do it on each other. And I do it. And then, you know, before a game, it was for me more ritualistic than anything. You know, I, I’d snap it and I’d always have a one of my pocket for a half the time and one right before the game and I pop it up and I take a hit and there was a couple of players would come up and you know, they’d take a hit off of it.

It’s just a Monya and it was more of like a, a pregame ritual that gets your mind exactly where you want it to be. Then anything else, you know, and it has no lasting effect unless you’re coming off of a, you know, this isn’t a pretty subsequent hit, which I didn’t know if they use it anymore at all. But uh, yeah, I got caught on TV using that Made you know, a little bit of hay out of it. But uh, we all have these rituals hit like, I know this when I stopped using a smelling salt because you’re not going to do that in college.

It was like, okay, I need to find this player at this point with 30 seconds left for the night before kickoff and we have to do a special Hanson and you have about four or five of those and if you didn’t do it, you know, and you’re like, Oh my God, we’re in trouble. It’s like the NFC game, the 2004 and a six championship game. I always talked to the team right before we leave the locker of the halftime. It just gives them some final thoughts. And the officials came in the locker room and I couldn’t get to them and time and they started to bring the team on the field and I never got to talk to the team before this started the second half.

Then for 16 years I’ve gone, Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (27m 23s): Gotcha.

Speaker 3 (27m 25s): Talk to the players before we went out, which is, you know, it’s ludicrous but it’s,

Speaker 2 (27m 30s): Well we, we completely understand because of how we’re a belief coach. We’re, we understand that and yeah. And as a, as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, I’m obsessed with Juju in the right. You know, my life has a, a scene at a silver linings playbook. So I totally get it. Where you have these rituals, you gotta have the remotes in the right spot and if anything gets messed up, you’re blaming yourself. I could of done more.

Speaker 3 (27m 54s): I used to have a deal where if I wore a suit to a game and we lost that game, the suit tie combination, I could never wear it again.

Speaker 2 (28m 2s): Yeah, I get it. I get it. Well, they make fun of me sometimes cause on the same way with the Jersey, if the team’s down, I have backup jerseys that I have to swap out and then hopefully smooth things out. Make that begs the question, do you have a backup tie? Have you ever made the switch at halftime?

Speaker 3 (28m 21s): My first year at UCLA I had a pair of socks that I wore for every game and a one week we forgot them and we played at the Rose bowl and one of the assistant equipment managers knew how, you know what a nutcase I was about to have a pair of socks and before the game he drove all the way back to campus just to get this and they were a little footage to get these little footie so I could wear them.

Speaker 1 (28m 42s): Okay.

Speaker 2 (28m 43s): Oh man. And if you’re here, if you live in LA, you know, drive for a roof over the West side, that’s a hike. It’s going to be an hour and a half with traffic. A talking about your days at, at UCLA and the pros, your, you’re a rare breed when it comes to the defense. You’ve coached both of the three, four and the four, three a lot of times coaches are pretty stubborn and just lock into one system for their entire life. Ah, kind of just walk us through the, the decision to go with either three, four or the four three and why you were open to change.

Speaker 3 (29m 14s): Well, I think what, um, what most coaches can tell you is that they’ve been exposed to both and they probably have an expertise and one of the other, but I think one of the most important things you can do is fit your scheme to your person. Now the job of the coach is to accentuate the talents of his players and put them in a position to have success. And so asking someone to do something that they’re not physically capable of doing is not good coaching. So, you know, when I came to UCLA, we were a three 14 and we had Anthony Barr, um, on the outside and we got Eric Hendrickson and Jordan Stonewall on the inside and Damion Holmes on the other side of the opposite, Anthony in the key was to get Anthony Barr when we could in a position to uh, be blocked by a running back cause we felt that was a mismatch or get him working in space and pass coverage or covering a tied in because those are the things he did well yet that length.

And Eric Kendricks was a sideline to sideline inside line backer. But as our, as the profiles of our players changed a little bit, we became more of a four, three team that use some three for principals. So, you know, I think if you watch a lot of NFL teams, you’re going to see some three, four and some for three principals sprinkled throughout their scheme. Uh, when you watch the Patriots, you know, you’re going to see a good bit of both depending upon who they’re playing. The, the key to having success I think is being able to match your scheme to your personnel initially.

And then maybe in that, in the draft your, your scheme to, I’m sorry you’re a person out to your scheme, but in college you have to have some flexibility because you know you recruit these players in their bodies change, you know they that your start recruiting Q and A’s 1516 the time he’s 18 he might’ve grown four inches in arms or longer and he’s, you know, you said different player than he was. You envisioned him being in high school.

Speaker 2 (31m 11s): Well you can talk about college and personnel there. You actually walked on as a defensive back at Washington and that was when they had a really good program, made it to two Rose bowls. Did you guys, did you have some sort of affinity? Did you have a special spot for a fellow walk-ons? Did you kind of keep an eye on them? What was your, what was your takeaway? Yeah,

Speaker 3 (31m 32s): Not a value to them. I really valued them. No, as you said. So I, I was a pretty good high school player. Got hurt my senior year. And, um, some of my scholarship offers dried up. Washington never really offered me, but they gave me, you know, I, I actually earned a scholarship my freshman spring of my freshman year. Um, but you know, being a walk on is not easy. Um, you know, every coach will tell you we treat everyone the same and everybody’s going to get the opportunity that I just talked to him. That’s necessarily the truth.

I think that is a walk on. You have to prove yourself, uh, for a longer period of time at a deeper level than you do a few. Your scholarship guy, you just don’t get as many opportunities. You come off the field. Your locker room sometimes is different. Your equipment not as new or you know, they don’t always know your name. Uh, you’re not paid as much attention to meetings. And that’s unfortunate. And to me, having gone through that, it was just important that walk-ons in our program, as long as they showed the commitment to the program that was expected of, everybody should be treated like everybody else should be given opportunities.

You know, I couldn’t wait for those chances to give walk-ons scholarships. We ended up with, you know, more scholarships available than we thought we would. There was nothing more fun than awarding a scholarship to walk on who had, who had earned it, who had it, who deserved it. It was, it was a, it was very rewarding and, you know, I knew how they felt. So, uh, that’s how I treated them.

Speaker 4 (33m 1s): Awesome. Awesome. Coach, we talked, we talked, we brought up the, the, the 2000 for a NFC championship, which was a bad thing. What about, let’s go. Good on you here. Texas a and M Rose bowl with just Rosen, one of the best combat, one of the best college football games I can ever recall watching a walk me through that experience and how awesome that was to be on the sideline and be a part of that team coming back from that big deficit to grab that win.

Speaker 3 (33m 27s): That’s so funny. Um, you know, so, so when we have, so the, when ESPN was showing all those broadcasts, uh, you know, on the step of started this quarantine two weeks in a row, they showed games I coached and they showed the text in a game and then they showed the Monday night football, Falcon saints game reopening of the dome, which I was a head coach and the Falcons for. So I actually watched a little bit of both of those and relived them. I don’t really go back and watch a lot of games I played in, but that ain’t M game was a wild one.

And I can tell you that running off the field at halftime, I was just, I was dumbfounded by what was happening. I just, I didn’t see that common at all. Um, maybe we were tight. I don’t know what it was. I don’t know. But I know on the second half we relaxed. Um, Josh Rosen took over our receiver, started making tremendous plays down the field, our back started, you know, break and tackles and making yards, our offensive line gel of a little bit.

And you know sometimes when you, when you capture, when you’re way ahead like a and M was there’s a natural little let down and when the other team can capitalize on that, let down and, and grab momentum, it is really difficult. If you’re like an a and, M, they get it going again, you know, you’ve kind of shut it down emotionally and then you’re supposed to pick it back up. It gives the team that’s all of a sudden got a great momentum and it’s hard to do. I had another situation like that in the NFL in a playoff game versus a New York giants.

I don’t know if you remember when, when a trade junk enrolled that that a snap back and they missed a field goal in candlestick and so we advanced but we were down at half I think. I don’t know, we might’ve been down 28 to seven or 35 to seven when you’re down 28 to seven in an NFL game, the chance of you coming back are almost known, especially the plaque. And we came back and we won it and it was just like, how do we do that? How do we get the momentum, you know, and it was Jeff Garcia just making a great place, making a great place.

Speaker 4 (35m 34s): I still have nights as a giant. I still have of that, of

Speaker 2 (35m 38s): That occasion. A momentum is a very real like that. By the time the fourth quarter was starting, I was very, very certain we were, the giants were losing that game.

Speaker 3 (35m 49s): You know what? I’m looking at a picture of me walking off the field after that game right now and I can see the scoreboards at the end of the first quarter. It was 77 at the end of the second quarter, it was a 28 to 14 and a half and then you guys scored 10 more. So it was 38 to 14 and then we came back and scored 25 straight and one 39 38 it was a certain five with 23 seconds left on a 23 the third and five with four seconds left on the 23 yard line.

When a, when that play happened.

Speaker 2 (36m 27s): Yeah. The bananas. Yeah. Now your dad was also a, a, a, a legendary coach. You, you got coaching in your, in your veins after a game like that or any sort of big game. Does your, does your dad send you a text? Does he give you a call and maybe either congratulate you, give you some pointers, kind of give you a little, a backseat driving on your coach and at all?

Speaker 3 (36m 49s): We always had a routine that uh, after a game win or lose, he was pretty gentle with me, you know, he was a supportive, you know, if we won great game, we lost a tough loss. I know you guys played hard hang in there but, but in this, but he always had access to my game, so I’m, no matter when I was coaching where I was coaching and so invariably the next two days he would, and studying the game and then using on a Tuesday or Wednesday, I’d get there on the phone call where we were going to recap what he saw in the game.

And most of the times it was positive stuff that there were some, there were some times, man, where he was tough on me, you know, and I listened. You, you talk about guys hustling of the ball and tackling. I see guys loafing. I see

Speaker 2 (37m 38s): Lollygagging.

Speaker 3 (37m 40s): Yeah. No. And, and, and, and why didn’t you play this guy more and you know, what were you thinking here and, and being, uh, really I appreciated it because I knew it was coming from a, a really good place, but it wasn’t always easy to hear, you know. Um, and he was usually right. You know, he’s usually right. He, he’s, he’s had a lot of wins, watched a lot of football and I think he’s one of 185 games and that is a pro head coach. And actually just turned 85 on a Sunday.

Speaker 2 (38m 12s): Yeah. Well happy birthday. Please send our happy birthday to him. Happy belated. Now your dad also A had had some legendary A press conferences. Everyone’s seen the, the viral video of him going play offs. Do you ever, do you ever find yourself quoting your dad or, or doing the impression to your dad?

Speaker 3 (38m 32s): Not too much. You know, I’ll tell you something interesting about that that day. Um, and people don’t really know this, is that we, I would defensive coordinator for the 40 Niners we went into Andy and we beat them that day.

Speaker 2 (38m 47s): Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (38m 48s): Jr yeah, we picked Of I think we picked up Peyton three times and ran one or two back for a touchdown. We had a couple of fun Brie cut. We played great on deep and put a grand cause we beat him. And I could tell when I shook his hand, kind of midfield going off the field that, you know, something was, he was going to pop a little bit, you know, um, he was an emotional guy, wore his emotions on his sleeve. He was a very honest, um, and so when that happened, you know, I didn’t really hear about it until we were on the bus headed to the airport.

But that was really weird for me because I know what the game means to our family. Uh, it’s been our family’s lifeblood since the day I was born. It’s the only way we’ve ever been able to support ourselves is through football. And I know what it was like for my dad when he’d lose a game. And so then it’d be kind of, you know, the guy that beat him A and then have you see him have, you know, that reaction after. And it was kind of tough. And I will tell you this as a little bit of a, uh, we played professionally three times and out of 201

Speaker 2 (39m 53s): I would, I would definitely bring that up to my old man. A before we let you go. Jim I know you A can you explain to people the work you do with the a count on me foundation?

Speaker 3 (40m 5s): Well, my, my family’s always been, um, pretty philanthropically oriented in the Academy foundation was started in 2004 to help keep children, um, in need and that risk. Um, and it operates in still on Georgia, uh, still on the state of Washington and still on the state of California. What’s really been fun for me is to see my kids. Um, kind of adoptive philanthropic attitude. My oldest son is 25 when this, uh, you know, the, the Cobra 19 kind of started to really to to inflame, was able to raise I think $150,000 with his friends through the fundraising effort and bring, um, the in 95 mass to medical workers in LA.

My daughter, uh, every Tuesday, I’m sorry, every Saturday and Sunday for the last two months or so, I spent the day delivering food to healthcare workers and then my, my 21 year old son started a actually a clothing brand. The surfer and all proceeds have gone to people in the inner city. Uh, you know, I’ll call him, I call it the Friday night and say, what are you doing? Probably this is one I’m just out of delivering food. And like, what do you mean you’re delivering food? He goes, well, every Friday, lately I’ve been a good one of the grocery store for elderly people that can’t go out and shopping for them and take them to the food.

And I’m like, Oh my God. So, you know, I think that, uh, it’s just really more than anything, an opportunity to give back to people and also teach our kids the value of, of serving. So happy about it.

Speaker 2 (41m 36s): Well, that’s awesome. Jim awesome stuff, man, and appreciate you calling in and giving us your time. Great to talk a little football here. Make sure you give Jim a follow on Twitter Jim underscore Mora FB and make sure to check out all his work with ESPN. Thanks again. Jim

Speaker 3 (41m 53s): Hey, I really enjoyed it and you guys have a wonderful day. Okay,

Speaker 2 (41m 57s): Awesome time talking to the gym or a junior.

Speaker 1 (41m 60s): Yeah,

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Like I said, just just a second ago, Jim Mora Jr jr. That was a lot of fun and A the NFL, it’s happening. The NFL is going to happen in the fall. Knock on wood. I still feel like we can, don’t want to jinx it, but I think it would be awesome to just, even though a few months away already already A getting some of these seasoned long Prop Bets in. And of course Kobe Coby knows the college

Speaker 0 (44m 32s): World, so thought it’d be fun to take a crack at some of the early ones talking Of offensive and defensive rookie of the years. Kramer, offensive rookie of the year. Who you lean in. Wait, wait a second. You’re going to make me go first. Yeah, God dammit, Shawn. All right, well, I mean I, I’ve been on this for a while now. I do think too, it could be something special. And this Miami team showed enough last year and showed me enough in Madden MAYhem to think that with this division, with that roster, with more importantly that coach and with a quarterback who I believe has the highest ceiling of this year’s crop.

I think if you’re, if you’re looking at who wins Rookie of the years, who is running backs and a quarter of, and even running backs, you have to have a really good year because Josh Jacobs had a really good Year miles Sanders. I had a really good Year and yet Kyler Murray still got the, the hardware there because he was a quarterback in California. You had a good year, but it wasn’t. No one’s ever going to look back and remember Kyler Murray’s legendary Rookie Year even though, and, and maybe people are going to give me shit about this even though I’m not huge on to a longterm as a quarterback, I’m also taking to a plus 900 and I’m on the same page as Kramer.

I like the system in Miami. I like the fact that everyone’s playing for Flores. I think they’ve done a good job of restocking that roster and we’ve seen it so many times. Even with Kyler Murray, I a rookie quarterback who can run around, we talked about it with Michael Vick, a rookie quarterback who can run around. They can, they can win some games. They shouldn’t, right, because they don’t have a tape on them. They, they make some plays at their legs. They ended up on it a couple of games that they probably shouldn’t. And you’re in an AFCs no, Tom Brady. If the dolphins, when the division two is going to get Rookie the air, or even if the dolphin’s get in to the playoffs, that’s not gonna.

Wait a second. Wait, wait a second. Real quick showing me who do you go? Hold on. Hold on. I’ve got the Patriots. Okay, I’ll look at you. You got, you got so excited to hear me say to a, the same guy that you pick Sean, that you didn’t even let me finish my point. What I was going to say is that’s the guy would take with the conventional wisdom, but my play for all intensive Rookie of the whole world is based on something that I know know to be true. Carson Wentz, not a fucking franchise quarterback.

A sprinkle some on that, right? Carson Wentz goes down in the first quarter of the season. Jalen hurts comes in Eagles to the playoffs within the division giant. Still get on with the wild card. Don’t worry, we will. Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts, wins. The division pulls home the hardware. That was one of my 70 to one. Right? So first of all, again, criteria. Quarterbacks, right?

Speaker 4 (47m 31s): Carson Wentz has gotten hurt before

Speaker 0 (47m 34s): The infrastructure is there everywhere else within the Eagles for him to be successful. So I think you would be doing yourself a disservice. The real money maniacs out there who are by the way, growing every day and wouldn’t be doing units, would be doing themselves a disservice if they did not as Colby so eloquently put it sprinkled a little on the 70 to one because are sitting flush after that historic Plus 20 and a half unit day in Madden MAYhem Kramer is just so on, uh, on board full tout mode.

He even updated his Twitter bio to reflect his now tout status. That’s when you know you’ve gone full town. The town intervention call. By the way, I nailed that so badly. I’m going to pull that out as a clip immediately. And also you’re down five units to me. You don’t think you would go out of your way to, to, I want your clients to know that I was going to ask your permission before I put their personal debts out there, but I thought the next line would be down five units to a hat.

Shaunti green. Alright. As long as long as the clients know your personal debt. So you’re, you’re saying Jalen hurts at 70 and one that’s your long shot, two of your safer bet at nine to one. I’m saying why wouldn’t you sprinkle again what position’s going to this year? Especially, is there a receiver that stands out to you that is going to a situation where they could go bonkers? This guy’s Chanel because of mention of mania. All right, Colby, throw out your crazy ass pics. What do you got here

Speaker 4 (49m 10s): For the start? The one that I w I like J K Dobbins and I like him in Baltimore. I think that offense is already, as you saw last year, it’s running smoothly. Um, and, and I think he comes to a great spot where he can get, he can get a lot of caries and a new split at the time. I think the DOB in his play was the one that really stood out to me. And then, uh, I think you got a sprinkle. Someone hurts because if, if, if when this goes down, I think he is very capable. He’s played in two Of fences. Two of what scares me. He’s on a plane that offense, you know what I mean? I mean, yeah, sure.

Back and we talk with June Jones back in high school. He played it in a more, I guess running a chute on offense, but um, we’ll see how it transitions to, to go into Miami. It’s going to be a, I think Hertz has an advantage on him by learning a different offense and, but for, from an educational standpoint,

Speaker 0 (49m 55s): Well, and this guy, I think it’s almost always a quarterback. But here’s, here’s kind of my long shot, Justin and Herbert again, maybe I’m just doing this because we saw him Ballout and Madden MAYhem and put up 31 points and cover the Plus 10 and a half against the chiefs who had 41 Justin Herbert is a quarterback. There’s a lot of talent still on the chargers team. Not amazing, certainly, but at Plus 2,800 if they can just make a little bit of noise in that AFC West, I don’t think they’re going to win the division. But I mean, what were the yeah, the, the Cardinals were what, last year to nine.

Like they weren’t, yeah, they weren’t considering they didn’t block well for their quarterback. Um, yeah. The, I think that that’s not a bad place. A 28 to one a guy. What was he selected? Fifth overall imagine getting the, the, uh, the fifth overall pick a 28 to one that now certainly there is a world where tie rod starts, but who knows what’s going to happen, especially in the A AFC West. I could see them. Yeah, they were, or I’m just looking up there at the cartels record. They were chargers. Chargers. No, no, no. I was just going to say Kyler Murray, he was the quarterback on a team of five, 10 and one if Herbert can come in, put up good numbers.

He, they have decent receivers. They have Hunter Henry like I, I think they’re going to still be competitive if they can get to seven or eight winds in the AFC West. I think Herbert a 20 to one is a good bet. I thought you were going to say the Gandy man. The Gandy man. Well, if you’re going to receivers again, which I’d probably advise against because you have to have an insane Year to win it as a receiver. Michael Pittman jr at 40 to one is a study. Crazy. Updated my profile. Okay. And now it says down five units to add Sean T. Green hashtag SIM God, the humorous deal.

And then of course, how a mommy new favorite chop of mine. All right, let’s uh, let’s throw out some pics there for defensive Rookie of the year for and throw one more offensive and just like, could you imagine a world where the bills are really good this year and Singletary goes down, right? He’s a fragile, they’re going to have a back that puts up numbers this year. It could be Zach Moss 50 to one. Yeah, that’s not bad. He didn’t get a lot of carriers in Madden MAYhem so he’s not high on my radar. I do this on Madden MAYhem I mean, look, I like Singletary, but I do think he runs tougher than Singletary.

If Singletary had a good year, but he isn’t so locked in that nothing can happen. And he can’t be dethroned they’re going to give it to us. I had a hand. I think Singletary gets hurt too. I think that’s actually a decent, a decent snag for your portfolio. Real money maniacs. What are you doing on the defensive side of the ball? Kramer? A defense is always kind of a crapshoot, right isn’t it? I feel like of late, we’ve seen the pattern of who won last year. So we have a list of the historic winners does either either on of that up because I feel like the way that you target this position is you look for the guy that’s going to either make the splash because he makes shitloads of tackles, right?

Yeah. Fresh middle linebacker for a shitty team fresh around the box. It’s hardly going to be, you know, like take Derek Brown who got drafted by the Panther. So I think might actually be the best defensive player in this draft. Um, but first thing you do is cross off the corner backs. Cause quarterback struggled that first year, let’s say somehow has a lot of pick six. What’s the breakdown? So the the past winners, I think you almost always have to go first round. Every once in a while you get a Derrius Leonard who won in 2018 but for the most part it’s a shine in the first round. So Nick Bosa won it or a tuna as a 19 a lot more in 2014 so that was a cornerback.

And then you got Joey Bosa pass rusher, Marcus Peters, and then we go back, we go D line, Aaron, Aaron, Donald Sheldon Richardson, Keekley Von Miller back and Dominick consu a cushion. Remember that guy? What I’m hearing is you, you want a target, the pass rusher plus 200 that makes sense to me. I was prepared to throw Patrick queen out there because I think he profiles is the kind of guy that could immediately get thrown into a Derrius Leonard type conversation because he has some nice support around him and he’s on the Ravens for whatever reason, defensive players just look better on the Ravens and those purple and black young, young.

I mean that D-line so loaded. You think that he has an advantage of being on that? Even if even if you want to say he’s the weakest link on the line, you should be able to have success because I don’t think they’re going to try to double you right away. No, no, definitely not. But you, you coming back to the points of what we just learned, right. What do we hear a lot of real disruptors upfront and I think the guy that I circled because he’s 22 to one is a guy that’s going to be a centerpiece for Matt rule’s defense and that’s they’re a Brown but they, they didn’t give out money. I don’t think he called one defensive tackle, which which to Donald?

Donald. Oh, okay. I didn’t, I got to be a disruptor. And I think Derrick, one of the things we talked about during draft prep was Derek Brown could be a disruptor and it’s not often and it’s not often you see those guys fall out of the top three and this was a weird year with the way the draft fell and he was able to fall to mat rule. And I think if there’s one thing you you can say objectively about a mat rural is I think everyone expects his defense going to be ready to play. He drafted a lot of guys that he like basically form the, the the, the spine of his defense.

So I think at 22 to one you can do a lot worse than taking Derek Brown there. Sean, what are you doing? Well, Derek Brown was on my list and I was going to give him half a second guy. I’ll let you, I’ll let you start out there. I’m going to go out with a guy, Willie gate jr chiefs drafted him. You’re talking about a linebacker. I knew Sean was going to go gay. Hey, not that there’s anything wrong with that. Willie Gay though. I liked taking a guy from the sec and I think it will be easy to stand out on the chiefs.

I mean you saw some of the guys they had in those playoff games like Sorenson and some of these guys that were pulling out tackles for them. If he’s a day one starter, which a linebacker, it’s realistic. You could be a day one starter, you get a bunch of tackles, you make it a couple of days on special teams and if the Kansas city, jeez, defense just gets a little bit better. I think people notice that and give Willy gay a lot of credit for it. Uh, at Plus eight or no, he’s Plus 2000 I really liked

Speaker 2 (56m 24s): That. So yeah, give me Willie gate jr, go go into that specs defense. I think he could get a couple of blitzes, a couple of sacks.

Speaker 0 (56m 32s): Tommy, what are you doing? I’m liking. I mean I think the Browns, not a bad option, but I will say I like Kenneth Murray, go into the chargers. I think there’s great value in that. The chargers already have a loaded defense. So I think, I mean the only bad thing is is he’s probably not going to be on national TV too much. He could eat tackles though. LA market that I do like that play A the other, the other guy I like a and M sticking with this mold disruptor and that’s,

Speaker 2 (56m 58s): Oh that was my other one out of South Carolina. You see a similar price 0.8,

Speaker 0 (57m 3s): The one, uh, this guy complete opposite scenario to mr Derek Brown who’s going to a brand new defense to be the centerpiece he is replacing the former center piece to a very, very good defense. There is going to be endless opportunities for him to show out. It’s almost like the chase young thing and you know what? But the difference with chase young is I think when you’re the first chase young is in this situation of being the first offensive player taken and the more of a target that you think.

I think there is a more of a chance for him to be disappointing because the bar is higher. I think Ken law or Derrick Brown, R a N

Speaker 2 (57m 42s): A little under the radar, but enough a talent. Both SCC guys. So they went up against sec lineman. What are you, what are you saying with it? Well, I mean sec, it’s a lineman. I mean for me, I know you hate the sec, but like I don’t hate him. Mike Leach in their offensive lines are much better than the rest of the, the college lines. They just are. I mean, that’s why I don’t trust FCC skill players onto the times cause they’re there playing behind these great offensive lines. And it’s a, it’s, it’s easy to dominate. So if you’re doing, if you’re making noise as a defensive lineman, you definitely go up and kid law.

He’s going to be playing next to bossa. Like who’s the, he’s going to be playing against guys, you’re going to get a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 0 (58m 21s): Who’s the guy? Who is the guy that’s gonna surprise people? Uh, who is the dark horse? I’ll say the one that, I don’t know what to expect. Is Jordan Brooks, a linebacker from Texas tech? I thought he, you know, he went really early. I thought a lot earlier than a, than a lot of people had a pencil. This even on the board over at MyBookie. No, I don’t see him. No. I mean, but he was still a first round draft pick. So you gotta think that, that Carol must’ve saw something he like, I know they don’t have the best track record after the Rashad penny pick. Um, but that one is the one that to me like I have no idea what to expect.

Here’s what I would say. I think one of the reasons corners can get this, you know, now that I’m going to pivot and justify why corners showed up on the historical look back in the right situation, you can be targeted a lot and you have opportunity to make those splash and they usually, they make you make the pick six. As you get the interceptions, you’re probably still going to get burnt a lot and you’re probably gonna still have a nice highlight reel of you getting toasted. But if I look at a, that has the structure around him and has talented cornerbacks around him to take some of the pressure off.

It’s Jalen Johnson in Chicago. He has got Kyle Fuller, they’re the type of pick and he dropped man. He was supposed to go on the first round 55 I thought he was going to be a first round. So I mocked him in the first round. He went in the second he’s going to have opportunities. Look, he’s got Kaleel Mack and those boys rushing for him. He’s got Kyle Fuller on the other side to scare quarterbacks to him. If he can just get,

Speaker 4 (59m 50s): He’s got who? Kyle Fuller know. Jaylan Johnson is not on the bears. Kyle. Oh you’re right, you’re right. Kyle Fuller. Oh, okay. I thought you meant on the offensive side of the,

Speaker 0 (1h 0m 0s): No, I’m saying he’s not the number one corner. He’s not being asked to go out there and shut down number ones and most likely quarterback’s going to be more likely to attack him cause he’s a Rookie. He’s going to have opportunities in that defense is the point to Jalen Johnson at 55 to one especially he goes up against Kurt cousins twice a year and these Rookie of the year that these Prop Bets I mean all offense I think. I think we’re seeing, you know, the favorite coming out more often than not. I would have to, I would have to imagine if we looked back on

Speaker 4 (1h 0m 32s): Some of these, some of these props for the defense. We’re seeing

Speaker 0 (1h 0m 38s): Definitely some obvious favorites winning there, but also like some A, some guys who maybe aren’t the favorites, but it’s out of Jeff Glenn and yet the way the Vikings going into a pretty good defense and TCU played with Gary Patterson, which always for the defensive backs, I feel like that’s always a good thing. Here’s a, here’s a guy that’s on the list in st long shot of the guys that are like over 50 to one. He’s the guy like Curtis Weaver. He’s a SAC machine out of Boise. Steak on to that Miami defense. He’s, he’s drafted on the fifth round, which means you’re probably throwing money away, putting him in the mix for defensive Rookie of the air.

But the guy had 47 and a half sacks in college. But here’s why you’re not he, that’s one of those splash that’s if he as a Rookie gets nine sacks like a day, you probably just have to lead the Rookie class. But if you, if you have a splash Year like all on the Latimer a year where he at a couple of pick sixes, which I think his wife probably one strips you get, you get 10 you get nine or 10 sacks, you’re probably rookie of the year. Right?

Speaker 4 (1h 1m 36s): the agent Panesa with a, the bills he dropped, it’s a guy that had first round value. The bills defense is pretty decent so I could see that working out.

Speaker 0 (1h 1m 46s): That’s actually a guy that is listed on my bookie. He’s 30 to one. Yeah. And yeah, I like the Bill’s defense. 30 to one. Yeah, that’s a good defense. And he was the first round Valley. No talk of Xavier McKinney. You care to comment. Might not start, barely going to be on prime time. He might not play what Brady wants, but we can probably dissect him. Most teams play a similar defense to a bud. Bud foster originated down there in Blacksburg, but the three safeties. But there is a very real scenario where Julian love is starting over.

I know they really want to get McKinney in their butt.

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